Episode 15 - The Enneagram Dependent Stance - Types 1-2-6

In this episode Elizabeth and Leigh are joined by guests Jenn Lash (1), Scott David Gordon (2), and Kathie Sever (6), as they talk about the dependent stance. Throughout the conversation each guest relates their personal experience in response to the hosts, as they explore known aspects of each type for better understanding.

Elizabeth and Leigh have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Have a listen to Episode 1-10 if you haven’t, to get an introduction to the 9 types and overview of the Enneagram.

Discernment might be my favorite word of the day for this crew. That could be a little bit of a mantra. Discernment is your way of doing productive thinking.
— Elizabeth & Leigh

Elizabeth’s song choice to accompany this episode is Chet Baker - Everything Depends on You

Episode 14 - The Enneagram Aggressive Stance - Types 3-7-8

In this episode Elizabeth and Leigh are joined by guests Alabel Chapin (3), Ruby Bowman (7), and Melody McClary (8). They delve into and explore the aggressive stance of types 3, 7, and 8. Even though there is a section for each type, the hosts and guests interweave their voices into the conversation and share many valuable personal perspectives, touching moments, and great insights throughout.

Elizabeth and Leigh have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Have a listen to Episode 1-10 if you haven’t, to get an introduction to the 9 types and overview of the Enneagram.

  • Intro overview 0-08:34

  • Type 3 - 08:34-43:30

  • Type 7 - 43:30-1:14:25

  • Type 8 - 1:14:25-1:47.32

Books mentioned: The Righteous Mind by Jonathan Haidt & When Things Fall Apart by Pema Chodron

Slow down, slow down, slow down.
— Leigh

Alabel’s song choice to accompany this episode is Kelis - Bossy feat. Too $hort

Episode 13 - The Enneagram Withdrawing Stance - Types 4-5-9

In this new episode following their second number night, Elizabeth and Leigh sit down at a distance from each other and talk about the withdrawing stance of types 4, 5, and 9. Elizabeth’s husband Nathaniel joins them for the section talking specifically about 5’s. They start out with a discussion about the shared traits of these withdrawing stances and then go into detail about each one.

Elizabeth and Leigh have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Have a listen to Episode 1-10 if you haven’t, to get an introduction to the 9 types and overview of the Enneagram.

  • Intro overview 0-20:50

  • Type 4 specifics - 20:50-48:00

  • Type 5 specifics - 48:00-1:05:20

  • Type 9 specifics - 1:05:20-1:23.40

If I sit around and “if only” everything, then I don’t have to prove to myself that I might fail at what I actually want to do. So back to Mary Oliver, You don’t have to be good, you just have to love what you love. Well loving what you love, means doing it, doing it, doing it, doing it, and stop all the ruminating. Risk being terrible at it. Risk looking dumb doing it.
— Elizabeth talking about type 4's

Elizabeth’s song choice to accompany this episode is The Streets, Tame Impala - Call My Phone Thinking I'm Doing Nothing Better

Episode 12 - Coronavirus - The Courageous Enneagram Type 6 and a World in Crisis

In this very special episode Elizabeth and Leigh sit down with Lisa, Kathie, and Rich, who are all type 6, to discuss how they are feeling and processing the current situation. How have their lives prepared them to be courageous and helpful to those of us that easily give into fear and who don’t default to productive thinking? What can we learn from their example and experience?

Elizabeth and Leigh have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Have a listen to Episode 1-10 to get an introduction to the 9 types and overview of the Enneagram.

“Somebody has to hold the light. There’s just no point in everybody going into the dark place. It might as well be me.”
— Kathie Sever

Episode 11 - Self Sabotage and Confirmation Bias In Your Enneagram Number

Following on the success of their first number night on the topic of confirmation bias in your number and self sabotage, hosts Elizabeth Chapin and Leigh Jackson of Austin Enneagram share what they taught and learned that evening.  A number night is an Enneagram supper club, a communal gathering where we do the work together.  

Elizabeth and Leigh have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Consider first having a listen to Episode 1-10 to get an introduction and overview of the Enneagram before diving into this expanded topic.


Elizabeth’s song choice to accompany this episode is Tove Lo - Habits (Stay High)

Episode 10 - Enneagram Type 1 - The Reformer

An in depth discussion of the Enneagram personality type 1 (reformer, perfectionist) with special guest Penny Baker. Hosts Elizabeth Chapin and Leigh Jackson of Austin Enneagram have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Have a listen to Episode 1 if you need an introduction and overview of the Enneagram.


Elizabeth’s top Type 1 playlist song choice is Bad Body Double by Imogen Heap

Episode 9 - Enneagram Type 9 - The Peacemaker

An in depth discussion of the Enneagram personality type 9 (peacemaker, mediator) led by Leigh, who is herself a 9, with special guest Walter Marcantoni. Hosts Elizabeth Chapin and Leigh Jackson of Austin Enneagram have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Have a listen to Episode 1 if you need an introduction and overview of the Enneagram.


Elizabeth’s top Type 9 playlist song choice is The Lazy Song by Bruno Mars

Episode 8 - Enneagram Type 8 - The Challenger

An in depth discussion of the Enneagram personality type 8 (challenger, protector) led by Leigh. Hosts Elizabeth Chapin and Leigh Jackson of Austin Enneagram have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Have a listen to Episode 1 if you need an introduction and overview of the Enneagram.


Elizabeth’s top Type 8 playlist song choice is BOSS by The Carters

Episode 7 - Enneagram Type 7 - The Enthusiast

An in depth discussion of the Enneagram personality type 7 (enthusiast, epicure) with special guest Jessica Agneessens. Hosts Elizabeth Chapin and Leigh Jackson of Austin Enneagram have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Have a listen to Episode 1 if you need an introduction and overview of the Enneagram.


Elizabeth’s top Type 7 playlist song choice is Ordinary Pleasure by Toro y Moi

Episode 6 - Enneagram Type 6 - The Loyalist

An in depth discussion of the Enneagram personality type 6 (loyalist, loyal skeptic) with special guest Scott Joffe. Hosts Elizabeth Chapin and Leigh Jackson of Austin Enneagram have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Have a listen to Episode 1 if you need an introduction and overview of the Enneagram.


Elizabeth’s top Type 6 playlist song choice is Anxiety by Julia Michaels ft. Selena Gomez

Episode 5 - Enneagram Type 5 - The Investigator

An in depth discussion of the Enneagram personality type 5 (investigator, observer), with special guest Nathaniel Chapin, Elizabeth’s husband. Hosts Elizabeth Chapin and Leigh Jackson of Austin Enneagram have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Have a listen to Episode 1 if you need an introduction and overview of the Enneagram.


Elizabeth’s top Type 5 playlist song choice is Simon & Garfunkel by I Am A Rock

Episode 4 - Enneagram Type 4 - The Individualist

An in depth discussion of the Enneagram personality type 4 (individualist, romantic), where Elizabeth speaks to her own experience understanding herself as a 4. Hosts Elizabeth Chapin and Leigh Jackson of Austin Enneagram have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Have a listen to Episode 1 if you need an introduction and overview of the Enneagram.


Elizabeth’s top Type 4 playlist song choice is Every Single Night by Fiona Apple

Episode 3 - Enneagram Type 3 - The Acheiver

An in depth discussion of the Enneagram personality type 3 (achiever, performer), with special guest Elizabeth’s daughter Alabel Chapin. Hosts Elizabeth Chapin and Leigh Jackson of Austin Enneagram have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Have a listen to Episode 1 if you need an introduction and overview of the Enneagram.


Elizabeth’s top Type 3 playlist song choice is I Did Something Bad by Taylor Swift

Episode 2 - Enneagram Type 2 - The Helper

An in depth discussion of the Enneagram personality type 2 (helper, giver). Hosts Elizabeth Chapin and Leigh Jackson of Austin Enneagram have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. Their goal is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible. Have a listen to Episode 1 if you need an introduction and overview of the Enneagram.


Elizabeth’s top Type 2 playlist song choice is Needy by Ariana Grande

Episode 1 - Leigh and Elizabeth introduce the Enneagram

This first episode is a general overview of the Enneagram. Subsequent episodes will explore in depth each of the nine personality types, and will sometimes include special guests who can speak directly to their type. Hosts Elizabeth Chapin and Leigh Jackson of Austin Enneagram have been apprentices of Enneagram master Suzanne Stabile. The goal of the podcast is to share this practical and transformational tool with others in a way that is narrative, inclusive and accessible.